## Fwd: Note 406(2) : Final Version of Note 406(1)

Agreed, google "perihelion precession of the planets" and first site. Fitzgerald also gives details of the apsidal method, and this is a good site.
Note 406(2) : Final Version of Note 406(1)
To: Myron Evans <myronevans123>

ok, thanks, I now understand eq.(10). Since the eccentricities of all planets are given, you could multiply the result with a factor

(1 – epsilon_E) / (1 – epsilon_p)

but this factor is nearly unity because epsilon is quite small, except for Mercury and Pluto. I can set up tables 1 and 2 with the latest data of M&T and the Farside site. Table 8.2 of M&T does not contain more data than table 7.2 of the 3rd edition.
The site farside.ph.utexas.edu is the home page of prof. Fitzpatrick. What is the exact location of the values you found there?

Horst

Am 23.04.2018 um 10:44 schrieb Myron Evans:

This is interesting, does the fourth edition contain the experimental EGR claim for all the planets? It would be interesting to find the most up to date comparisons for all the planets. Since EGR theory has been refuted in so many ways to the satisfaction of essentially all the colleagues, even exact agreement would not prove anything. As argued in note 406(1), the geodetic contribution from the obsolete EGR theory ITSELF has been completely left out of consideration. For Neptune, the Newtonian contribution to the observed precession is over a million times the EGR contribution and would have to have been removed very precisely to one part in a million, if the experiment is to mean anything at all. Newtonian methods are used to remove it, so EGR is not used to remove it. EGR is applied to less than one part in a million of the observed precession, and this is completely absurd. This argument has also been used by Miles Mathis as you know. To answer your points:

Eq. (10) comes from Eq. (6). Define A := 6 pi MG / ( c squared) , assume eps squared about zero. Then delta phi = A / a. In reduced units a sub E = 1, so

delta phi (planet ) = delta phi (earth) / a sub p.

The precession in Eq. (6) is for a rotation of 2 pi. For mercury for example this 2 pi takes 88 days. It must be adjusted to 365 days to give it in terms of the earth year of 365 days. For Mercury this is about 44 arcseconds per EARTH century. This is never made clear in the literature. So the precession per earth year (delta phi sub p) in eq. (10) is the precession per Mercury year multiplied by I / T= 365 / 88 where T is 0.2408. So combining the two adjustments we obtain Eq. (10). This is applied to Mercury in Eq. (12) and to Venus in Eq. (12b), giving the correct results in both cases. Finally, the total observed precessions are taken from the Fitzgerald site www.farside.ph.utexa.edu. For Neptune, the actually observed precession in radians per earth year is 1.76 ten power minus five. Eq. (6) gives 3.76 ten power minus eleven radians per earth year. Essentially all of the precession is explained in standard astronomy with Newtonian methods. In the most up to date research they use computer based perturbation theory and N body theory, Monte Carlo methods and so on. The observed precession of Neptune is more than a million times larger than that given by Eq. (6). This is not exactly "precise agreement" with EGR theory. Nearly all of the experimentally observed precession is attributed to the influence of objects other than the sun, and removed with supercomputers using Newtonian methods, and not by relativistic methods. What is left after that is attributed to the EGR contribution. However, i have not been able to find this experimental EGR contribution. It might be in some astronomy library. I cannot find it using Google.

Fwd: Note 406(2) : Final Version of Note 406(1)

Obviously Marion & Thornton used slightly different values for table 7.1 (for Jupiter onwards) which is table 8.1 in the 4th edition.
Where did you get eq.(10)? Did you base this on eq.(6)? And why can you use astronomical units here instead of SI units?
What is Total Delta phi (obs.) in table 2?

Horst

Am 22.04.2018 um 13:53 schrieb Myron Evans:

Note 406(2) : Final Version of Note 406(1)