Taymar Experiments

The ECE2 field equations of gravitation include the gravitational Faraday law of induction studied by Martin Taymar. In one of the replications of the Laithwaite expeiment, the replicator stood on a weighing scale, but the video did say whether or not the replicator “lost weight”. Laithwaite used a torque to swing around the gyro to arm’s length. This gyro was a disk spun on an arm. In the latest notes for UFT379, the ECE wave equation is reduced to an Euler Bernoulli equation, and a small external electromagnetic driving force used to produce a very large g at Euler Bernoulli resonance. The motion of a gyroscope with one point fixed was first worked out by Lagrange in the late eighteenth century as you know. Two linked gyroscopes with two points fixed could be worked out with the Euler Lagrange equations. However there is nothing in classical dynamics to indicate counter gravitation. This situation is changed completely by ECE2 theory, which can explain counter gravitation.

Sent: 04/06/2017 21:20:10 GMT Daylight Time
Subj: Re: Two gyros on a scale — the most simple ANTIGRAVITY experiment.

Dear Agatha,

many thanks for your addtional hints. The gyros should be accelerated and kept at constant angular velocity. We have experience with electric drives and should be able to build such units, perhaps in a shielding cage. I do not believe that the magnetic or electric field of the earth will have an effect because both are quite small but we will see. Instead of using a scale with two arms we could use any other scale but this is not so immpressive for a video 🙂
We should keep in mind that a Fraday cage only does electrical shielding. For shielding the magnetic field of the earth you need something like a Helmholtz solenoid.

The gravitational effect of Taymar was very small (some micro g), therefore not so convincing. I never understood the geometry of his experiment, but according to your revealing hint the additional acceleration was in tangential direction of the ring. I had rather expected a radial acceleration, or something like a mechanical Lorentz force (if it was not a thermal effect 🙂


Am 04.06.2017 um 19:42 schrieb Dr. Agatha Lorentz-Ferenstein, Ph.D.:

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Horst Eckardt <mail> wrote:

Dear Agatha,

Thank you for hinting to your second device on your web page, two gyros on a scale. This seems indeed to be the most simple experiment. I will propose our group to start with this.

Dear Horst,

Thank you very much.

Greatly appreciated.

It cannot get any simpler than that. :))

I hope your group could try to perform this experiment
at the same time, in parallel with your other experiments?

Please, take a good look at the TECHNICAL NOTES

section at the very bottom of this message.

It would be nice if your München Group could make

a video recording of :

Two gyros on a scale —
the most simple ANTIGRAVITY experiment









To be more realistic, and also more empirically precise, we need to perform the above experiment in slightly different way than it seems to be implied by the above illustrations.

The two gyros hang in balance, motionless. By hand, let’s raise one motionless gyro, and let it come down freely. It will oscillate before it comes back to motionless balance again in due time.

Now, let’s repeat it, this time raising a spinning gyro. It will freely come down, but slower. It will take more time due to a little bit of antigravity effect it will generate. This will decrease the frequency of its oscillations before it comes back to the motionless balance again. Perhaps the mean of the amplitude might be slightly shifted upward from the motionless balance level?

It would be interesting to check if the direction of spin has influence on the results. It should not have any.

The reason why the spinning gyro (with the horizontal spin axis) might not take off and antigravitate in a spectacular fashion, as it was suggested by the above illustrations, is that its angular velocity (and angular momentum) will start to instantly decelerate upon releasing it at the motionless balance level.

Then again, it may as well raise, depending on how strong its angular momentum is when it is released at the level of the motionless balance.

If instead of a gyro we would use a rotor with a constant angular velocity (and angular momentum), the spinning rotor would slowly raise (antigravitate) at a constant rate. For the rotor to accelerate its antigravitating movement, we would need to accelerate its angular velocity (and angular momentum).

The spinning gyro (with the horizontal spin axis), should be suspended on the balance-scale in the way that will prevent it from precessing (or rotating), and the gyro should be allowed a degree of freedom to naturally hang horizontally at all times, even when it goes up, or down. The balance-scale should be allowed to move only up, or down. These conditions could be pretty much self-evident from looking at the very primitive graphics that were used above to illustrate the experiment.

What if we repeat this experiment with both gyros having their axis of spin oriented vertically, instead of horizontally? What if one gyro is spinning horizontally, and the other one is spinning vertically? For the above two options we can try each direction of spin, too.

Experimenting with rotors is a bit more difficult, especially for the reason that should they happen to be electrically powered, this could potentially introduce electromagnetic field which in turn could interfere with Earth’s magnetic and electric fields in an unpredictable manner. In this experiment, the natural antigravity effect is the result of a horizontally oriented angular momentum interacting with Earth’s perpendicular magnetic and electric fields, as per the Minkowski-Feigel effect.

For the antigravity effect to be pronounced enough, we need a heavier gyro spinning at few thousand rpm. I would speculate that a 1400g (about 3 pounds) gyro spinning upwards of 6000rpm could produce quite impressive results. Because in this simple experiment we do not intend to alter the intensity of Earth’s magnetic and electric fields, therefore the only option we have for increasing the strength of the antigravity effect is to increase the value of the angular momentum by increasing the weight, the angular velocity, or the angular acceleration of the gyro.

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