Bug Beginning to be Fixed (Saturday 0827 local time in Swansea)

The bug is still present in www.aias.us and www.et3m,net, but www.upitec.org appears to be working.

In a message dated 28/04/2017 14:53:34 GMT Daylight Time, mark@archive.org writes:

Hi Myron,

Yes, there is a bug. We will fix it and I will let you know when we have done that. With any luck later today.
BTW… thank you VERY MUCH for alerting us to it!!!

As for a work-around.

Note this URL: https://web.archive.org/web/20170313233649/www.aias.us

https://web.archive.org/web/20170313233649/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=On_the_Development_of_Spacetime_and_a_Unified_Theory_of_Physics

If I change it to this it works: https://web.archive.org/web/20170313233649/www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=On_the_Development_of_Spacetime_and_a_Unified_Theory_of_Physics

Note I am adding “www.aias.us” before the “index.php”.

I am not saying that will work in all cases… but you asked for a work-around:-)

– Mark

On Apr 28, 2017, at 6:09 AM, EMyrone wrote:

Agreed, this bug has been seen by yourself, Alex Hill and myself independently. Can you please advise us of the procedure for calling of direct links to documents. I will take a note of the steps involved and use it until the bug is repaired. At 1407 local time the bug is still there. However all the material is safely archived.

In a message dated 28/04/2017 09:13:57 GMT Daylight Time, mail writes:

The steps 1 to 3 do work, but linked pages from the main page are not displayed (step 4).
However calling of direct links to documents works, for example:
https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20111116121619/http://www.aias.us/documents/uft/a28thpaper.pdf

(in this case I tested an older version where the URL is still with “web-beta”).
I think Mark Graham admitted that they have a bug in their software.

Horst

Am 28.04.2017 um 09:26 schrieb EMyrone:

To Dr Horst Eckardt, President of UPITEC:

Many thanks! What method did you use to get these results? I can just follow that method. The archiving staff does a great job, both at www.archive.org and www.webarchive.org.uk. However I am still unable to access pages on both computers here when I use the publicly advertized method:

1) www.archive.org,
2) type in www.aias.us
3) Choose any date back to 2002.
4) Click on any page of www.aias.us

The site first became visible from www.archive.org in January 2016, after Dave Burleigh, CEO of Annexa Inc., made some adjustments to the software. It was first archived at the National Library of Wales in 2010. There must be some other way of accessing the pages listed below by Horst. It is clear that they are all safely archived, but there is a problem with the public method of access given above. Archiving for conservation is of obvious, internationally recognized and paramount importance, there are over three thousand documents on www.aias.us alone. It would be a complete disaster if they were lost to history. This is why an international initiative has started to archive the internet. Aled Betts is the digital archivist at the National Library of Wales, and will display www.aias.us and www.upitec.org in the reading rooms of all the British copyright libraries: British Library in London, Bodleian Oxford, University of Cambridge Library, National Libraries of Scotland

and Wales, and in Ireland, Trinity College Dublin. The more archiving and back ups of these important sites, the merrier.

Myron Evans

Co President AIAS

In a message dated 27/04/2017 21:10:04 GMT Daylight Time, mail writes:

Please try this link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160807211044/http://aias.us/documents/uft/a314thpaper.pdf

I am getting the document. For a more general attempt try:
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://aias.us/documents/uft/a314thpaper.pdf

and you get the info that the document is saved 2 times. Of course this is the San Francisco archive.
Also browsing through any page on
https://web.archive.org/web/20170421001247/http://aias.us/
is possible. The newest paper there is UFT358. I am not sure if all has been updated on that date.

Horst

Am 27.04.2017 um 21:26 schrieb EMyrone:

When I use www.archive.org, type in www.aias.us, choose a date, then click on UFT papers, the message comes up that the entire UFT page seems not to be archived. I suggest that everyone try the above steps. It seems that Horst Eckardt can see the page in Munich but I cannot see it here in Swansea. I am clearly aware that you are www.archive.org, the Wayback Machine in San Francisco. You have been archiving www.aias.us since 2002.

In a message dated 27/04/2017 20:12:52 GMT Daylight Time, mail writes:

This may be the problem. My example was not good because the document was too new. It works with

https://web.archive.org/details/http://aias.us/documents/uft/a315thpaper.pdf

Horst

Am 27.04.2017 um 21:07 schrieb Mark Graham:

So… are you saying: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://aias.us/documents/uft/a374thpaper.pdf used to playback, but now does not?

– Mark

On Apr 27, 2017, at 12:02 PM, Horst Eckardt <mail> wrote:

I would like to give this hint:
For example the document
http://aias.us/documents/uft/a374thpaper.pdf
should be archived. I am not sure what the corresponding address of the Wayback Machine should be.

Regards,
Horst Eckardt

Am 27.04.2017 um 20:55 schrieb EMyrone:

This is the research group and other colleagues I work with. The URL’s affected are www.aias.us, www.upitec.org and www.et3m.net. I checked with www.oxford.ac.uk and www.cambridge.ac.uk archived on www.archive.org and those two sites work fine. Up until recently the URL’s www.aias.us, www.upitec.org and www.et3m.net all worked fine, all the pages came up on all sites at all dates. None of the settings have been changed on www.aias.us, www.upitec.org and www.et3m.net. UPITEC Director Horst Eckardt mentions that the scripting mechanisms on the sites control the pages. These scripting mechanisms have not been changed.

In a message dated 27/04/2017 19:47:33 GMT Daylight Time, mark writes:

Myron keeps adding all 35 of you back into this thread even after I take them out. So… at the risk of over-sharing.. I am sending this response to all of you. 🙂

Yes… it looks like some of the pages, for the sites you are asking about, have not been archived. I am very sorry about that. This does not appear to be a “bug”.
BTW… please share specific URLs you might have questions about.

I am happy to help.

– Mark Graham
Director, Wayback Machine, Internet Archive

On Apr 27, 2017, at 11:38 AM, EMyrone wrote:

I have tried teh latest date, 21st April 2017, the same thing happens. The site appear but if one clicks on any page such as “AIAS staff” the page does not appear, a message appears that the site has not been archived. This happens on all dates back to 2002, and on all dates of www.upitec.org and www.et3m.net

In a message dated 27/04/2017 18:41:05 GMT Daylight Time, mark writes:

(Dropping the 35 people from the CC.)

Can you please give me a specific example URL?

– Mark Graham
Director, Wayback Machine, Internet Archive

On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:22 AM, EMyrone wrote:

Many thanks, I agree that the site is visible, as in the link below, when one clicks on the link below the site comes up looking fine, but when one clicks on any entry of the website, a message comes up stating that “this page appears not to have been archived”. The bug is present on all dates and all entries of all three websites back to 2002. It seems to have developed suddenly very recently.

cc Aled Betts, Digital Archivist, National Library of Wales, and colleagues.

In a message dated 27/04/2017 18:07:38 GMT Daylight Time, mark writes:

Hi Myron,

Might you please be more specific about what URLs/dates you are not able to play back?

E.g. I can see: https://web.archive.org/web/20170313233649/http://www.aias.us just fine.

– Mark Graham
Director, Wayback Machine, Internet Archive

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